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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1230 on: December 09, 2023, 10:48:32 AM »
Purdy is a very serviceable NFL quarterback. But he’s the best situation in the NFL. He wouldn’t be doing what he’s doing in Carolina or New Orleans.
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« Reply #1231 on: December 09, 2023, 10:51:34 AM »
Pretty fun to watch you pick out Hall of Fame caliber players and retroactively declare them "can't miss" prospects 15-20 years after they were drafted.

There's just no such thing.  You can pretend there is if it makes you feel better about Fields, but there is no such thing as a "can't-miss" NFL prospect.  For every top prospect who became Peyton Manning, there's another who became Baker Mayfield.
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« Reply #1232 on: December 09, 2023, 10:52:15 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 10:47:14 AM
I’m supposed to take a guy seriously who lumped Tyson Bagent in with Tom Brady (or even Brock Purdy)?

That’s what you took out of that?! 😂 way to dodge the point of the post. And in no way did I compare them at all. This is what you do. It’s very disingenuous.
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« Reply #1233 on: December 09, 2023, 10:52:35 AM »
Comparing Baker Mayfield to Peyton Manning as a prospect is pure gold. No one is taking Baker over Manning if they come out the same year.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1234 on: December 09, 2023, 10:53:48 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 10:48:32 AM
Purdy is a very serviceable NFL quarterback. But he’s the best situation in the NFL. He wouldn’t be doing what he’s doing in Carolina or New Orleans.

You’re making an argument that you have no way to prove or disprove. Almost like you can’t lose the argument that way. Purdy HAS proved he’s better than Fields. That’s a fact.
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« Reply #1235 on: December 09, 2023, 10:54:18 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Comparing Baker Mayfield to Peyton Manning as a prospect is pure gold. No one is taking Baker over Manning if they come out the same year.



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« Reply #1236 on: December 09, 2023, 10:55:16 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 09, 2023, 10:53:48 AM
You’re making an argument that you have no way to prove or disprove. Almost like you can’t lose the argument that way. Purdy HAS proved he’s better than Fields. That’s a fact.

What about quarterbacks like Purdy, Brady, and Bagent?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1237 on: December 09, 2023, 10:55:41 AM »
All the “draft experts” have stated that Fields would NOT be QB1 in this draft. It is Williams without question.
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« Reply #1238 on: December 09, 2023, 10:55:52 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BRfAiLpv8KA

https://www.on3.com/college/usc-trojans/news/usc-quarterback-caleb-williams-tabbed-most-cant-miss-prospect-since-trevor-lawrence-andrew-luck-andy-staples/

https://saturdayoutwest.com/usc-trojans/joel-klatt-explains-what-makes-caleb-williams-a-rare-nfl-qb-prospect/

https://saturdayoutwest.com/usc-trojans/caleb-williams-draws-lofty-cant-miss-comps-from-rick-neuheisel/

If you want someone people think is a "can't-miss" prospect, there's one in this draft.  You've questioned his ability because he bought a nice car.  I don't agree with these evaluations, for the record, but if you want a guy people think can't miss, then you'd be stupid to pass on him right?
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« Reply #1239 on: December 09, 2023, 10:56:23 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 10:55:16 AM
What about quarterbacks like Purdy, Brady, and Bagent?

Bagent played better than Fields. That’s a fact you fail to accept.
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« Reply #1240 on: December 09, 2023, 10:56:42 AM »
Purdy is in the best situation in football. It’s a virtual certainty he’s not as good on a different team. Any quarterback would be better on the 49ers.
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« Reply #1241 on: December 09, 2023, 10:57:33 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 10:55:16 AM
What about quarterbacks like Purdy, Brady, and Bagent?

And I did that for this very reason. It’s hilarious to see you get so worked up.
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« Reply #1242 on: December 09, 2023, 10:59:11 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 09, 2023, 10:56:23 AM
Bagent played better than Fields. That’s a fact you fail to accept.

If you exclude about 10 Fields starts. Including two of the previous three before Bagent started. Bagent had like 6-7 turnovers in 3 games. And that was with low risk taking.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1243 on: December 09, 2023, 10:59:57 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 10:55:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BRfAiLpv8KA

https://www.on3.com/college/usc-trojans/news/usc-quarterback-caleb-williams-tabbed-most-cant-miss-prospect-since-trevor-lawrence-andrew-luck-andy-staples/

https://saturdayoutwest.com/usc-trojans/joel-klatt-explains-what-makes-caleb-williams-a-rare-nfl-qb-prospect/

https://saturdayoutwest.com/usc-trojans/caleb-williams-draws-lofty-cant-miss-comps-from-rick-neuheisel/

If you want someone people think is a "can't-miss" prospect, there's one in this draft.  You've questioned his ability because he bought a nice car.  I don't agree with these evaluations, for the record, but if you want a guy people think can't miss, then you'd be stupid to pass on him right?

The difference to Tempo is he doesn’t have hindsight to look back and tell us if Williams is actually Manning or Leaf yet…
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« Reply #1244 on: December 09, 2023, 11:00:39 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 10:59:11 AM
If you exclude about 10 Fields starts. Including two of the previous three before Bagent started. Bagent had like 6-7 turnovers in 3 games. And that was with low risk taking.

Sure, why not. It’s what you do when telling us how good Fields is…
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