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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #90 on: November 30, 2023, 11:02:17 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on November 30, 2023, 11:00:51 AM
I should’ve known you were one of the dudes on Reddit analyzing Caleb Williams body language to stump for Fields, my bad.

I haven’t seen a scout negatively compare Williams to Fields as a prospect yet, but maybe so.  I don’t think “a college kid crying because he lost a big game / his season’s goals” is a red flag personally.

It’s more than that. A lot more.
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« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2023, 11:03:15 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 30, 2023, 11:01:44 AM
Drake Maye is 4-4 in the ACC. He lit up Campbell pretty good though.

How sure are you that you really want to use wins as a QB stat?  Justin Fields is 7-26 in his career.
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« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2023, 11:03:34 AM »
His agents say he wants partial fucking ownership of the team that drafts him…
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« Reply #93 on: November 30, 2023, 11:03:43 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 30, 2023, 11:02:17 AM
It’s more than that. A lot more.

It’s the dumbest, meatheadiest shit ever.  I should’ve known, honestly.
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« Reply #94 on: November 30, 2023, 11:04:12 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on November 30, 2023, 11:03:15 AM
How sure are you that you really want to use wins as a QB stat?  Justin Fields is 7-26 in his career.

JFC. Did you see what he had to work with last year? I thought you “watched the games?”
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« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2023, 11:04:44 AM »
More than half the team was on one year “tryout” deals.
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« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2023, 11:04:58 AM »
JFC.
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« Reply #97 on: November 30, 2023, 11:05:15 AM »
Now I have two PAMen to deal with.
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« Reply #98 on: November 30, 2023, 11:07:05 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 30, 2023, 11:04:12 AM
JFC. Did you see what he had to work with last year? I thought you “watched the games?”

I’ve watched him lose 26 of his 34 starts, yeah.

Is UNC some dominant powerhouse roster?

What it comes down to is, you will use wins as a QB stat when it supports the argument you already wanted to make, and disregard it when it contradicts you.  That’s silly.

I’m open to the idea that Fields’ record isn’t all his fault, for sure.  I think there’s probably a lot of truth to that, which is why I was mostly talking about other things.  I just thought it was interesting for a Fields guy of all people to tie a win loss record exclusively to the QB.
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« Reply #99 on: November 30, 2023, 11:08:13 AM »
You don’t think a QB should elevate a college team even more than an NFL team?
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« Reply #100 on: November 30, 2023, 11:10:17 AM »
Maye was 16 for 36 against a down Clemson team. I’m not sure he’s a slam dunk to be better than Fields. He could be. But I’m not moving off Fields for “could be.” This team should be ready to win next year. Build around a guy with a solid floor at a minimum and you can find a quarterback somewhere if need be.
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« Reply #101 on: November 30, 2023, 11:11:25 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 30, 2023, 11:08:13 AM
You don’t think a QB should elevate a college team even more than an NFL team?

I don’t even know what this means.

I don’t think Fields’ win loss record is all on him.  I haven’t watched many UNC football games, but I doubt Drake Maye’s win loss record is all on him either.

The difference between our views is that you want to tie Maye completely to his team’s record, and absolutely refuse to criticize Fields at all for his because of a bunch of other external things.
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« Reply #102 on: November 30, 2023, 11:11:33 AM »
I wouldn’t have figured you for a “wins are a quarterback stat” guy. At all.
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« Reply #103 on: November 30, 2023, 11:13:35 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 30, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
Maye was 16 for 36 against a down Clemson team. I’m not sure he’s a slam dunk to be better than Fields. He could be. But I’m not moving off Fields for “could be.” This team should be ready to win next year. Build around a guy with a solid floor at a minimum and you can find a quarterback somewhere if need be.

Any time you draft any QB, literally ever, it’s a “could be”.  It was a “could be” when they drafted Fields and moved on from Trubisky.

The chances to pick a top prospect at the top of the draft are rare, they just don’t come up often.  I understood why they passed on it last year - I think it will turn out to be a big mistake if they pass on it again this year.
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« Reply #104 on: November 30, 2023, 11:14:28 AM »
If you draft Maye, you’d better be prepared for a rough couple of first years, because he doesn’t strike me  as win soon NFL starter.
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