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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2925 on: December 21, 2023, 11:09:40 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
I said it was a bad trade from the get go. I even pointed out he was a knucklehead on this forum before he got traded to the Bears. But he is talented, and no one could have predicted how badly that would go. If you’re saying you expected him to be unloaded for a 6th or 7th rounder 8 or 9 games into his Bear career you’re full of shit.

I said it was a huge risk. Nothing more.
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« Reply #2926 on: December 21, 2023, 11:10:18 AM »
And I hated the trade too. But I didn't soften or back pedal when Parkins gushed about it.
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« Reply #2927 on: December 21, 2023, 11:12:11 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
I said it was a bad trade from the get go. I even pointed out he was a knucklehead on this forum before he got traded to the Bears. But he is talented, and no one could have predicted how badly that would go. If you’re saying you expected him to be unloaded for a 6th or 7th rounder 8 or 9 games into his Bear career you’re full of shit.

Chris Chelios is a far better Board Historian than you are...
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« Reply #2928 on: December 21, 2023, 11:13:46 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:01:53 AM
I mean Troy Aikman, he’s not credible at all am I right? Spark clearly knows better than he does!

Never said that, of course, but Troy Aikman has obviously been wrong about QB stuff lots of times.

He was sure Mitch Trubisky and Josh Rosen were franchise QBs - was he credible then?  Or is he only credible now that he agrees with you?

If he’s wrong again about Fields will you still think he’s credible?  If he says nice things about Caleb Williams and I post them here will you agree with him because he’s credible?
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« Reply #2929 on: December 21, 2023, 11:13:53 AM »
Quote from: Chris Chelios on December 21, 2023, 11:10:18 AM
And I hated the trade too. But I didn't soften or back pedal when Parkins gushed about it.

Congrats. I merely came to accept why it would have been made. Never loved it. But at least you could justify it at the time.
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« Reply #2930 on: December 21, 2023, 11:15:12 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 11:13:46 AM
Never said that, of course, but Troy Aikman has obviously been wrong about QB stuff lots of times.

He was sure Mitch Trubisky and Josh Rosen were franchise QBs - was he credible then?  Or is he only credible now that he agrees with you?

If he’s wrong again about Fields will you still think he’s credible?  If he says nice things about Caleb Williams and I post them here will you agree with him because he’s credible?

I remember when you gushed about Nagy and Trubisky. And berated me for months about how the Mack trade was such a great move. Does it only count when others are wrong?
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« Reply #2931 on: December 21, 2023, 11:16:02 AM »
Yes, he will always be “credible.” Do you think credible means “infallible?”
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« Reply #2932 on: December 21, 2023, 11:17:53 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:15:12 AM
I remember when you gushed about Nagy and Trubisky. And berated me for months about how the Mack trade was such a great move. Does it only count when others are wrong?

You’re an absolutely TERRIBLE debater dude.  When you can’t answer a question you just flail like this to avoid it instead, it’s hilariously transparent.

You didn’t post Troy Aikman’s opinion because it was “credible”, and not one person here is stupid enough to believe you did.

You posted it because he agreed with you.
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« Reply #2933 on: December 21, 2023, 11:18:42 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:16:02 AM
Yes, he will always be “credible.” Do you think credible means “infallible?”

I think it’s pretty clear that in this circumstance you are using it to mean “agrees with me”.

My evidence is that when a Bears beat writer said something you didn’t agree with you stated outright that you are more credible than he is.
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« Reply #2934 on: December 21, 2023, 11:24:44 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 11:17:53 AM
You’re an absolutely TERRIBLE debater dude.  When you can’t answer a question you just flail like this to avoid it instead, it’s hilariously transparent.

You didn’t post Troy Aikman’s opinion because it was “credible”, and not one person here is stupid enough to believe you did.

You posted it because he agreed with you.

Of course, I posted his opinion because it agreed with mine. Should I post the opinions of people who disagree with me? WTF kind of point is that? All I ever tried to to convey to you is that there are people who aren’t football stupid who disagree with you. As if I would cite someone who agrees with you and disagrees with me? JFC what are we doing here?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2935 on: December 21, 2023, 11:27:05 AM »
“You know Tempo, when you tried to
make the case that some people feel differently than I (Spark) do, you posted the thoughts of someone who agreed with you.”

JFC is this really a “point?”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #2936 on: December 21, 2023, 11:28:29 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 11:18:42 AM
I think it’s pretty clear that in this circumstance you are using it to mean “agrees with me”.

My evidence is that when a Bears beat writer said something you didn’t agree with you stated outright that you are more credible than he is.

And disagrees with you. Which is the larger fucking point. Not everyone who knows a little bit about football agrees with Spark. That’s the only fucking point I tried to make.
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« Reply #2937 on: December 21, 2023, 11:29:43 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:24:44 AM
Of course, I posted his opinion because it agreed with mine. Should I post the opinions of people who disagree with me? WTF kind of point is that? All I ever tried to to convey to you is that there are people who aren’t football stupid who disagree with you. As if I would cite someone who agrees with you and disagrees with me? JFC what are we doing here?

You JUST tried to invalidate my opinion because I liked Trubisky after he led the Bears to the playoffs.  But when Aikman did it, you didn’t question his credibility at all - in fact you sarcastically asked if I thought it meant he was infallible.

The only determining factor to you in terms of “credibility” is that someone agrees with your view on a topic.  That’s it.  If they don’t - even if they self evidently are far more credible than you - you will say outright that you are more credible.

I’ll acknowledge Troy Aikman is credible even though he was wrong about the past QBs.  The NFL GMs who disagree with you are credible too, maybe even more credible than Aikman, but you don’t put the same weight on their opinions (because they disagree with you.  Brad Biggs is infinitely more credible than you in terms of having visibility into the Bears’ FO but you point out he was wrong about something last year (he’s not infallible) and he disagrees with you, so you are more credible.

It’s just so transparent.  Credibility isn’t determined by whether someone agrees with your opinion.
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« Reply #2938 on: December 21, 2023, 11:30:46 AM »
Quote from: Darnell Mooney (womp womp) on December 21, 2023, 11:28:29 AM
And disagrees with you. Which is the larger fucking point. Not everyone who knows a little bit about football agrees with Spark. That’s the only fucking point I tried to make.

You’ve so far done an absolutely abysmal job making that “point”.
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« Reply #2939 on: December 21, 2023, 11:31:00 AM »
I was joking about Brad Biggs. Of course he knows more about the Bears than I do. He’s also gotten shit wrong. So apparently his insight
Isnt infallible.

He had the Bears drafting Jalen Carter at 1 and then again at 9. So maybe he’s not the insider you like to think he is?
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