« Reply #2056 on: December 12, 2023, 10:31:35 PM »
A lot of average passers "terrify defensive coordinators" when they are able to beat them with their legs. Robert Griffin III terrified defensive coordinators, but he got hurt and couldn't run anymore and never could pass the ball consistently.
I think Fields is an "average NFL starter" - in that he provides average value to an NFL team as a starting QB - if you take into account BOTH his electric running, and his mediocre passing (combined with his sack and turnover issues). Like, unless he becomes a better passer, I'm never going to be sold on him even if he rushes for a ton of yards. He needs to be able to throw the ball IMO, and despite the claims earlier this year of some huge turnaround that hasn't really materialized.
Obviously he doesn't need to throw for 300 yards and 4 TD every game, but even since the Washington game he's just been "okay" in the passing game. Efficient and hasn't thrown picks (which is great), but he isn't really consistently moving the ball with his arm in the way you'd like to see.
I agree re: now that Mahomes doesn't have Tyreek, he and Kelce both look human. But I think that's a large part of what scares me about Fields - it will not be long until we will have to pay him in a way that will limit our ability to put weapons around him, and even the Chiefs have looked more human since they had to pay Mahomes and had to move Tyreek. I do not think he's really come close - IMO - to justify what he'll need to be to be worth what the Bears will have to pay to keep him.
Like obviously everyone is hoping this never happens, but say Fields got hurt in a way that severely limited his athleticism/running game. How confident are you that he can be a really good passer, if the threat to run for 100 yards isn't there anymore? At some point in Fields' career assuming he lasts 5-8 more years at a minimum, that ability will no longer be there.
I believe he will progress as a passer, and he has (the stats bear this out too). You may not put much stock into to, but I think he got done dirty last year, and year 2 is a critical year to any QBs development, you apparently disagree.

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