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Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?

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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2023, 10:02:26 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 09:56:58 AM
Yes, because of penalties, turnovers, and field position.
We get yards in spite of penalties, turnovers and field position but we don't score points because of penalties, turnovers and field position.

I've seen plenty of Illinois teams who got yards between the 20s and couldn't put points on the board.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2023, 11:08:26 AM »
Quote from: Mn on October 17, 2023, 10:02:26 AM
We get yards in spite of penalties, turnovers and field position but we don't score points because of penalties, turnovers and field position.

I've seen plenty of Illinois teams who got yards between the 20s and couldn't put points on the board.

And this has been one of them, to an extent.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2023, 11:09:58 AM »
Quote from: Mn on October 17, 2023, 10:02:26 AM
We get yards in spite of penalties, turnovers and field position but we don't score points because of penalties, turnovers and field position.

I've seen plenty of Illinois teams who got yards between the 20s and couldn't put points on the board.

The numbers I saw recently were that Illinois averaged 380 something yards last year and this year it was 377. Average points were lower, as was noted.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2023, 11:33:48 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 11:09:58 AM
The numbers I saw recently were that Illinois averaged 380 something yards last year and this year it was 377. Average points were lower, as was noted.
Red zone offense doesn't necessarily come easy with a Soph QB with 1 start under his belt entering the season.

Couldya give him 3-5 more games ?
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2023, 11:54:34 AM »
Quote from: Mn on October 17, 2023, 11:33:48 AM
Red zone offense doesn't necessarily come easy with a Soph QB with 1 start under his belt entering the season.

Couldya give him 3-5 more games ?

That is true. But the red zone was an issue last year as well. I do not think we are in the red zone as much as we were last year as we are starting with worse field position this year as the D is not as good or getting as many turnovers.

You do not believe he needs 7 years like Dak Prescott has gotten?  2.5 years is apparently not enough.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2023, 12:12:57 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 11:54:34 AM
That is true. But the red zone was an issue last year as well. I do not think we are in the red zone as much as we were last year as we are starting with worse field position this year as the D is not as good or getting as many turnovers.

You do not believe he needs 7 years like Dak Prescott has gotten?  2.5 years is apparently not enough.
As I said earlier, I'd go portal over him if I could. And that would be after 12 starts at Illinois, assuming he stays healthy and remains the starter, and 13 starts total.
We do have returning experience on the OL and I have no idea what the issue is there, but Reggie Love is no Chase Brown.
And Lunney should stop taking in-game cat naps.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2023, 01:03:58 PM »
Altmyer could be pretty damn good as an upperclassman if the O line doesn’t get him killed.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2023, 01:05:52 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 17, 2023, 01:03:58 PM
Altmyer could be pretty damn good as an upperclassman if the O line doesn’t get him killed.

I agree. He seems to be fine if he has a little time to throw. And he has shown to be an effective runner.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2023, 01:17:38 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 17, 2023, 01:03:58 PM
Altmyer could be pretty damn good as an upperclassman if the O line doesn’t get him killed.

We don’t allow for excuses for quarterbacks around here.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2023, 01:18:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 01:05:52 PM
I agree. He seems to be fine if he has a little time to throw. And he has shown to be an effective runner.

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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2023, 01:22:22 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 17, 2023, 01:17:38 PM
We don’t allow for excuses for quarterbacks around here.
One is an amateur and one is a professional. But you knew that.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2023, 01:26:10 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 17, 2023, 01:22:22 PM
One is an amateur and one is a professional. But you knew that.

I would not be so sure at this point.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2023, 01:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 17, 2023, 01:22:22 PM
One is an amateur and one is a professional. But you knew that.

So can he get better or not?
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2023, 01:32:37 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 17, 2023, 01:28:21 PM
So can he get better or not?
If whomever you're talking about doesn't get better there's a problem.
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Re: Do the Illini have 3 more wins in them?
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2023, 01:33:50 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 17, 2023, 01:32:37 PM
If whomever you're talking about doesn't get better there's a problem.

So he can get better. Thanks for answering.
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